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發文者是個 Zerker 並提到他在 Nizara 組隊的時候因為開玩笑所以嘗試全裸(我想飾品應該沒脫) Tank,
沒想到竟然在 buff 上好的情況下,他的 Mit% 大約只掉到 20% 左右而迴避竟然衝到破萬,
除了最後的 NM 外一切都非常順利...。
後來又嘗試了穿 lv1 全套布裝的測試,於是就開啟了一篇 12 頁的討論串...XD
前幾天的 patch 我想也是針對此而來,將基本迴避率由當時所穿的裝甲類別改為該職業所能穿的最重裝甲的迴避率,
不過現在的情況是怎樣我沒仔細去看,有空的可以測試看看全裸、布裝打怪的差別。
文章後來也討論到全身 Fabled 跟一般裝備的差別,由於現在 LU#28 29 的關係,Raid 穿全套 Fabled 的 MT,
跟普通 Tank 的差距似乎也沒那麼明顯了。
[討論] Mitigation 與裝備差別討論
- Crlight
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Mitigation % 計算公式:
X = 1 - 1 / ((M/10500)*3+1)
X 為 %、M 為 Mitigation
由上式計算所得下表,Surv 為生存指數,Diff 為前後兩個生存指數間的差異值,To-Kill Hit 為該 Mit 情況下,
若有 1000 HP 要被打多少才會死亡。
Mit Mit% Surv Diff To-Kill Hit
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 1000.000000
750.000000 0.176471 1.214286 0.214286 1214.285714
1500.000000 0.300000 1.428571 0.214286 1428.571429
2250.000000 0.391304 1.642857 0.214286 1642.857143
3000.000000 0.461538 1.857143 0.214286 1857.142857
3750.000000 0.517241 2.071429 0.214286 2071.428571
4500.000000 0.562500 2.285714 0.214286 2285.714286
5250.000000 0.600000 2.500000 0.214286 2500.000000
6000.000000 0.631579 2.714286 0.214286 2714.285714
6750.000000 0.681818 3.142857 0.214286 3142.857143
8250.000000 0.702128 3.357143 0.214286 3357.142857
9000.000000 0.720000 3.571429 0.214286 3571.428571
9750.000000 0.735849 3.785714 0.214286 3785.714286
10500.000000 0.750000 4.000000 0.214286 4000.000000
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討論情況#1
I had a quested robe lvl 42 and the Quested Vest you get from Steamfont with 0 stats/resist on it lvl 42. Black Lotus BP and Doomrage BP.
這位老兄有一件 lv42 有屬性的任務袍子以及一件蒸氣山脈的任務送的沒屬性 Lv42 袍子,
此外還有 Blacklotus 以及 Doomrage 這兩件 BP 作為實驗對照組。
Group makeup with Templar/defiler/warden/conjy/dirge. (all of the following mitigation values are based off regular raid buffs, NO warden cure buffs, or Guardian temp buffs.)
與 Templar/Defiler/Warden/Conj/Dirge 組隊,一般的 Raid Buff 且沒放 Warden 的 Cure 和守護者自身暫時 Buff。
I placed Black lotus on had 14.2k hp and 6700 mitigation and 57% avoidance.
他穿上 Blacklotus 有 14.2K HP 6700 防禦 57% 迴避率。
Placed the Doomrage BP on, 14.1k HP 6600mit and 57.8% avoidance.
穿上 Doomrage 有 14.1K HP 6600 防禦以及 57.8 迴避率。
Quested lvl 42 robe on 13.2k hp 5400 mit and 68% avoidance.(only thing i can think of to cause this was the robe had stats on so it lowered my HP and Mit drastically but still gave me the avoidance of not having a Plate BP on..)
任務 Lv42 有屬性袍穿上,有 13.2K HP 5400 防禦和 68% 迴避率。
Quested Steamfont Vest 13.6k hp 5800 mitigation and 73% avoidance.
YES 73% avoidance..
任務 Lv42 袍穿上,有 13.6K HP 5800 防禦以及 73% 迴避率,沒錯...73% 迴避率。
So i tried to run the zone with the quested steamfont vest, we did notice a noticeable decrease in damage taken. However a unwanted side effect was the lack of keeping agro, it seems i was able to avoid all inc hits and did not have my Inflaming defensive stance go off once, while a guardian must be hit to help him generate agro. So this is what i did for the zone, i placed Blacklotus and the Steamfont vest on a hot key (thanks Bahira for that idea) and whenever i got into to much trouble with incoming hits i'd swap out the bp's. This would effectively cut out all incoming dmg but AE dmg. Believe it or not.. THIS WORKED!
當穿上蒸氣山脈無屬性任務袍後,在 DT 擋怪的時候的確受到的傷害比率降低了,不過副作用也不小,
因為守護者是靠被打來建立仇恨,所以當迴避率提升的結果就是仇恨建立不足,因此他們用了另外一招,
將 Blacklotus 與無屬性任務袍放在熱鍵欄,先以 Blacklotus 接怪,當損血情況不妙的時候就立刻換上袍子,
除了 AE 無法抵抗外的確都非常有效!
I believe our guild tailor is working on making me a lvl 70 dress, she just thinks i look cuter in a dress than that steamfont vest.
他們會內的裁縫目前正在加緊趕工製作 lv70 的袍子給他作為下一個嘗試。
X = 1 - 1 / ((M/10500)*3+1)
X 為 %、M 為 Mitigation
由上式計算所得下表,Surv 為生存指數,Diff 為前後兩個生存指數間的差異值,To-Kill Hit 為該 Mit 情況下,
若有 1000 HP 要被打多少才會死亡。
Mit Mit% Surv Diff To-Kill Hit
0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 1000.000000
750.000000 0.176471 1.214286 0.214286 1214.285714
1500.000000 0.300000 1.428571 0.214286 1428.571429
2250.000000 0.391304 1.642857 0.214286 1642.857143
3000.000000 0.461538 1.857143 0.214286 1857.142857
3750.000000 0.517241 2.071429 0.214286 2071.428571
4500.000000 0.562500 2.285714 0.214286 2285.714286
5250.000000 0.600000 2.500000 0.214286 2500.000000
6000.000000 0.631579 2.714286 0.214286 2714.285714
6750.000000 0.681818 3.142857 0.214286 3142.857143
8250.000000 0.702128 3.357143 0.214286 3357.142857
9000.000000 0.720000 3.571429 0.214286 3571.428571
9750.000000 0.735849 3.785714 0.214286 3785.714286
10500.000000 0.750000 4.000000 0.214286 4000.000000
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討論情況#1
I had a quested robe lvl 42 and the Quested Vest you get from Steamfont with 0 stats/resist on it lvl 42. Black Lotus BP and Doomrage BP.
這位老兄有一件 lv42 有屬性的任務袍子以及一件蒸氣山脈的任務送的沒屬性 Lv42 袍子,
此外還有 Blacklotus 以及 Doomrage 這兩件 BP 作為實驗對照組。
Group makeup with Templar/defiler/warden/conjy/dirge. (all of the following mitigation values are based off regular raid buffs, NO warden cure buffs, or Guardian temp buffs.)
與 Templar/Defiler/Warden/Conj/Dirge 組隊,一般的 Raid Buff 且沒放 Warden 的 Cure 和守護者自身暫時 Buff。
I placed Black lotus on had 14.2k hp and 6700 mitigation and 57% avoidance.
他穿上 Blacklotus 有 14.2K HP 6700 防禦 57% 迴避率。
Placed the Doomrage BP on, 14.1k HP 6600mit and 57.8% avoidance.
穿上 Doomrage 有 14.1K HP 6600 防禦以及 57.8 迴避率。
Quested lvl 42 robe on 13.2k hp 5400 mit and 68% avoidance.(only thing i can think of to cause this was the robe had stats on so it lowered my HP and Mit drastically but still gave me the avoidance of not having a Plate BP on..)
任務 Lv42 有屬性袍穿上,有 13.2K HP 5400 防禦和 68% 迴避率。
Quested Steamfont Vest 13.6k hp 5800 mitigation and 73% avoidance.
YES 73% avoidance..
任務 Lv42 袍穿上,有 13.6K HP 5800 防禦以及 73% 迴避率,沒錯...73% 迴避率。
So i tried to run the zone with the quested steamfont vest, we did notice a noticeable decrease in damage taken. However a unwanted side effect was the lack of keeping agro, it seems i was able to avoid all inc hits and did not have my Inflaming defensive stance go off once, while a guardian must be hit to help him generate agro. So this is what i did for the zone, i placed Blacklotus and the Steamfont vest on a hot key (thanks Bahira for that idea) and whenever i got into to much trouble with incoming hits i'd swap out the bp's. This would effectively cut out all incoming dmg but AE dmg. Believe it or not.. THIS WORKED!
當穿上蒸氣山脈無屬性任務袍後,在 DT 擋怪的時候的確受到的傷害比率降低了,不過副作用也不小,
因為守護者是靠被打來建立仇恨,所以當迴避率提升的結果就是仇恨建立不足,因此他們用了另外一招,
將 Blacklotus 與無屬性任務袍放在熱鍵欄,先以 Blacklotus 接怪,當損血情況不妙的時候就立刻換上袍子,
除了 AE 無法抵抗外的確都非常有效!
I believe our guild tailor is working on making me a lvl 70 dress, she just thinks i look cuter in a dress than that steamfont vest.
他們會內的裁縫目前正在加緊趕工製作 lv70 的袍子給他作為下一個嘗試。
- Crlight
- Guild Leader

- 文章: 7009
- 註冊時間: 2005年 6月 27日, 23:18
- 主角色: Ezigh
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